Nathan-Adam IA/ID debate still hot on EH

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My god, it's still going on, and it's become beyond useless. What in the world is the goal of this discussion at this point? Nathan seems not to realize that a) no one is understanding his take on terms, and b) that there are LS-type IAs that have made substantial contributions to the field and moved it away from what it was years ago when he was at Vivid.

I honestly don't know either

Perhaps the only meaningful part of discussion is around a hierarchy of relationships between ED, IA, and ID, but even that is becoming hard to tune into any more.